Interesting.

I wonder who’s bankrolling reports such as this one about Pangas? Admittedly I know nothing of this fish, it’s market or its popularity. But it seems to skeptical little me that claiming the fish is horribly unsustainable and injected with urine by queer Third World boogies would be just the kind of sleazy thing some group opposed to this cheap fish taking market share would put out there for public consumption.

Maybe some sort of French commercial fisherman association or something?

Is this blog and its well-intentioned owner being used as an unwitting dupe? It’s possible since this page is reporting on a hysterical report.

I don’t know.

But NEVER, EVER take anything like this at face value, kids. Don’t allow yourselcves to be manipulated, either by the people who fund such “reports” or the perhaps well-intentioned folks who disseminate them.

Yeah. I figured that would get deleted, agendaboy. Sucker.

I was not eating Pangas before (I try to eat fish that don’t fly half way around the world)… and I will continue…
FYI, this information was checked before. Just as it is known that cheap cow meat is coming from cows that never ate anything green, or that cheap chicken live in horrible conditions and are fed antibiotics continuously…
I do think that it is good that some people remind us of that, from time to time.
Just so we don’t forget what we really eat.

ewww

Crikey I’ve just eaten some, does this mean I will be dead in the morning?

this isn’t rat poison, dear dave. like with most noxious substances, their adverse affects will be cumulative.

Thanks for providing the report - my missus had heard about it when I told her I’d just bought a kilo presumably for 3.50€ but had been overcharged by Leclerc at 6.50€/kg (they were selling it at 4.80€/kg defrosted.

I figured a net search might throw something up, and by chance, I scrolled down and found Daves interesting comments.

I loved them (the comments) - well articulated, and definitely the right tone for any counter argument.

As for what I think:

Probably the greatest ‘impact statement’ referred to the River Mekong Panga fish farms, due to common knowledge of its polluted state, and that this water is also present on the fish.

On these points - clearly:

a) Washing the fish will be sensible
b) Don’t eat the fish every week

On the issue of excess bacteria - this is a normal everyday life issue: you make sure that you cook the food first, before eating it, in order to kill off the bacteria (just like with burgers).

So from an ‘edible protein’ perspective, the report makes us aware of certain concerns, and reminds us to maintain a varied well cooked diet.

For the other stuff - the carbon footprint craze:

As far as most serious scientists are concerned (including Britains top scientific advisor to the gov. remember?) - there is nothing we can do to prevent climate change.

It is a repeating flip-flop hot to cold - the only bizarre element is that for the last 10,000 years it has been extremely stable ie. the period when human civilisation has had chance to develop(or not, some might say)!

Overall, the key issue is this:

The only people who advocate paying 12€/kg for protein, are the people who can afford to pay 12€/kg.

Same as increased taxes to stop people travelling - that means - to allow only the wealthy to travel (cos by definition, the common man would be taxed off the road).

Yes - be aware.

But as Dave says - don’t be duped.

Dave, they really do inject them with women’s hormones that are found in pee. There was a documentary on tv about 2 weeks ago showing the scientist who discovered this “trick” to make the fish lay more eggs. I think he was British or French.

It’s not scaremongering, just scientific fact.

I caught the original M6 report which you link to on Daily Motion. The Mekong is filthy, worse than the Severn Trent in the 1970s, worse then the Seine today. These fish are filthy. I just can’t believe people would still buy them. Doesn’t Panga at 4euros/kg ring any alarm bells? Well it is your funeral Marc.

i’d jus like to say that we have been selling this fish for 20 years and no one has complained that have gotten sick, we even have regulars who come in every week for this fish and are fighting fit.

Have been eating this fish for a while now, as have many of our friends, and we have never heard anything adverse about it, or ever been ill. In fact, have just had fish and chips today!!

Thought the report very interesting, but always rely on my own judgement regarding foodstuffs also.

please also consider the long term effects of something unhealthful.

you can eat something with aspartame and not feel ill just afterward, but down the line, your health will most likely be adversely affected by it.

another example is smoking. have a cigarette today and you feel fine, but after years and years of something like that - well, if you get lung cancer, you can’t wonder where it came from.

The fish just arrived in my country Maritius and first surprise was the cheap price but very good taste. Do not know the origin untill check on web. Strange is one of the picture above stating “to be avoided like the plague” is infact open sea catch coming down the boat income chanel as shown on the film documentary. I just wonder where the real truth lies, in France or in Vietnam.

Open to any comments.

Ever wondered why more and more people are getting cancers today? We are what we eat. If we eat healthy, we should be okay but if we eat junk, then somehow, our bodies will have to compensate for it.
Unfortunately, our food chain today is very contaminated with steroids, poisons and genetically modified stuff. Chickens used to take three months minimum before they were of decent size but today, it takes no more than 8 weeks!
Same with fish that are being fed with modern steriods. This goes directly into our bodies and have you ever wondered why some kids are huge despite have much shorter parents?
It pays to be aware of what we put into our bodies and if we ever end up with lumps in our system, its probably our bad eating habits.

it shouldent be allowed !!!!